Paxman 25A hornSuggested Horns, Mouthpieces, and Mutes

My favorites within in the price range of students and amateurs

John Ericson

One attitude and approach to equipment that may be taken is that “my horn is what it is and I just need to learn to play it.” There is an element of truth to this attitude but is your horn basically hard to articulate on? Does your sound just not project well compared to others around you? Maybe a different mouthpiece or leadpipe would help; maybe a whole new horn would open up a new level of playing to you that you have never experienced previously. You still have to put in the practice hours, of course, but equipment still is a very important element. You will want to keep your eyes open to see what might make things better.

Every horn player is (or at least should be) interested in finding better equipment. But what equipment is better? Any answer to this question is colored because every horn teacher is biased (including me!) by both their individual sense of what sounds best and by their sense of "what works" both professionally for them right now and for their current students. There are many different models of horns and mouthpieces on the market and any number of them will do well. As a teacher I am very comfortable teaching students who have different tonal ideals and would not insist that a student use any particular brand or model of horn; I just want to feel that it is, in fact, a good instrument, no matter what their tonal ideal is.

The choice of a horn is obviously a very important one. Good and bad horns can be made from brass or nickel silver, can be large or small bore, can have a screw bell or fixed bell, etc. Different types of horns will be preferred in different places and it is to your advantage to aspire to fit into the musical situation that you have the closest affinity for. Rather than give specific recommendations as to horns [but see the end of this article...], I would suggest if at all possible speaking to several full time professional players of the horn in your area. What you want to obtain is a horn that is of the quality level that a professional would play it or at least consider playing and you also want a horn that should retain some resale value in your area.

On mouthpieces, I would first suggest in general that hornists don't use the mouthpiece that "came with the horn." A change of mouthpiece can make an incredible difference. If possible, try several mouthpieces of the same model; if they are all significantly different, there are probably quality control problems with that brand and you should think about performing on a different brand. Look for a mouthpiece that is neither very large nor very small that plays easily with a good, resonant sound; they are available! As an additional suggestion on mouthpieces, in general don't use one with too wide or too rounded a rim. I feel that both of these design areas tend to make the horn harder to play and play accurately. Finally, do be sure that any mouthpiece you use is properly sized for your horn leadpipe inlet. There is a distance that a mouthpiece should fit into the receiver; if it goes in too little or too far things will not work as well as they should. 

There are a lot of mutes on the market, each with a unique shade of tonal color and slightly different playing qualities. If you can, try the mute before you buy it--especially try the low range, which on some mutes is quite poor. In general many professional players in the USA prefer "Rittich" style mutes, the ones that look like a tall cone. I would by choice recommend a tunable version of this type of mute. While it may make sense to purchase a cheap mute for a school program, for personal use always look for something up the ladder in terms of quality. As to stop mutes, try several if possible and pick the one with the best projection, as this does vary considerably. 

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OK, if you really press me for suggestions, I of course have a few suggestions. UPDATED November 2009.

One way I often answer the question of what horn do I recommend is this--if I had to buy a new double horn right now, what would I purchase? I am not really sure, honestly, but the reason why is good--there really are quite a few good double horns out there on the market. When you get over into the price range of professional quality instruments (roughly over $6,000) I have tried a lot of instruments I have liked.

To give a slightly more concrete answer, I made both of my solo CDs on the Paxman 25A at the top of this page. The 25A is a larger bore horn generally similar to a Conn 8D but with some of the qualities I associate with a Geyer style horn. At this point in time I still own the horn but if I had to replace it I would replace it with something a bit smaller. I have played Geyer style horns in the past and would be very tempted to look in that direction again. I won my job in Nashville playing a Yamaha 667 but during my time there switched to an 8D with a Lawson flare to better match the mostly Lawson section. In short, I have played it all.

The horn I actually play right now the most is that Paxman 25A; I keep coming back to it, it feels like "home." I also regularly play on several other horns including a triple horn, a Paxman model 83L compensating triple. This horn I describe further in an article in the February, 2006 issue of The Horn Call, the journal of the International Horn Society. It uses the same tapers as the Paxman 23L double, an instrument that feels good to me if you want another suggestion. I find that the 23L is sized somewhere in the middle between large and small bore instruments.

I do have several specific, less expensive suggestions for students and for amateurs looking for new horns, mouthpieces, and mutes.

New double horns that I like generally:

  • Conn 8D
  • Yamaha 667

The Conn 8D is a larger bell horn in nickel silver and the Yamaha 667 is a smaller bell brass horn. They both give a good "professional" sound when coupled with a good mouthpiece.

For a very young beginner I would consider the use of a single B-flat horn rather than a single F horn. More on this topic may be found here. Another alternate to consider is the 3/4 size double horn, which I describe here.

On mouthpieces, as noted above, I would first suggest in general that hornists don't use the mouthpiece that "came with the horn." A change of mouthpiece can make an incredible difference.

For a beginner I have most recently been suggesting the Yamaha 30C4. It is a small and very easy to play mouthpiece. The Schilke 30 is also a good choice.

New mouthpieces that I recommend for more mature players in order of price from low to high:

  • Laskey 75, 775, and 80 series cups (G, J, and F versions)
  • Moosewood A-11 and B-12

The Laskey 75/775G is a really excellent mouthpiece and is very popular in the ASU studio (and surprisingly affordable). Also very popular among my current students is the Moosewood B-12. I also recommend the Laskey 75J and the Moosewood A-11; they are similar to the others except that they produce a bit brighter (75J) or darker (A-11) tone colors and are a better match for the emboucure and articulation style of some players. Some other suggestions may be found in the Horn Matters site, search or look in the category "Equipment."

Consider a wider than standard inner diameter mouthpiece. The Laskey 75 serices is 17.5 MM and the 80 series is 18 MM, and Moosewood makes a BW cup that is similar to the Laskey 80 series. A larger inner diamater can really open things up for some players; the old standard mouthpieces popular 25 years ago (for example Giardinelli) are really more intended for people with fairly thin lips.

I should note that both of my CDs were recorded playing on, believe it or not, an old Conn 5BN mouthpiece (a model long out of production) and actually I am playing on one now. Osmun makes a copy of my mouthpiece. I have swithed mouthpiece many times; always keep your eyes open as to what is out there.

I should also mention that I don't use the same mouthpiece on every horn. I have several different large, deep mouthpieces I like on natural horn, I often use a Moosewood BD cup on descant, and a Laskey F cup works well on Wagner tuba (and sometimes on natural horn).

Be sure, as also noted in the above article, that any mouthpiece you use is properly sized for your horn leadpipe inlet. There is a distance that a mouthpiece should fit into the receiver; if it goes in too little or too far things really will not work as well as they should. The reason I emphasize this point is because I found at one time a stock B-12 very good on my big Paxman horn but the smaller shanked B-12Y to be even better. It fits maybe 1/16 of an inch further into the leadpipe than the stock B-12.

For a student with braces I would suggest trying to locate this mouthpiece:

  • Neill Sanders 17M

This model has an unusually wide, reverse peak rim design which spreads the pressure well. I found this mouthpiece to be useful during a period when I had a lip injury, and some teachers also find this mouthpiece useful in working on embouchure changes. Unfortunately, this mouthpiece has been out of production for a number of years but Moosewood can supply you with a copy of the rim to fit one of their models. The comfort is worth the expense compared to other options with braces. I discuss the topic of Neill Sanders mouthpieces further in this article.

As noted above, in general I prefer "Rittich" style mutes, the ones that look like a tall cone. In my opinion one of the best mute values out there is the tunable "Rittich" style mute made by Stonelined (Humes and Berg), which runs under $50. I also like the TrumCor #45, also a Rittich style mute, and other good mutes are out there. Avoid mutes made of aluminum or plastic. For a stop mute I have been happy with Tom Crown but the TrumCor and Alexander stop mutes are excellent, and there are other new options on the market.


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