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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 X@imap4.asu.edu wrote:

CLAIM: that wildlife is in very poor state do to that lack of knowledge the public has.

[IN MANY AREAS OUR WILDLIFE ARE ENDANGERED BECAUSE OF PUBLIC APATHY, OVERBUILDING, AND POLLUTION. THIS MIGHT DO FOR AN EVALUATIVE CLAIM ]

I'm using the lack of education of the public as the effect to why the wildlife is in such poor condition. if the public new how many animals were dyiung because of them they would do something about it. grounds: if we don't do something about these animals are ecosystem will be screwed.

[GROUNDS ARE PART OF THE PROOFS, WHAT IS YOUR WARRANT?]

i feel that you have judged my paper without reading based on your own opinions and views.

[Ms x, as you know, I have had many opportunities to view your paper in all stages of progress, from prewriting through the present introduction and several pages that I read on Thursday, Sept. 15. I have also had the opportunity to read two essays about your paper written by peer editors, both of which I have commented on.]

English papers and essays are almost all bias to some degree.

[In that the author hopes to pursuade? Yet, even when writing a pursuasive article the goal is to represent the issue fairly. As you will remember from class discussions our goal is the Aristotelian form of argument, to reveal truth.]

We might not feel the same way about certain things, but it does not make either of us wrong. > >

[One must use valid criteria to write a proper evaluative essay.]

i've had other people read my paper with the same degree you have and said that the way i used my sources are evaluating wildlife conservation. I am EVALUATING WILDLIFE CONSERVATION not evaluating wildlife. > >

[Isn't wildlife conservation about conserving the life and health of each wild animal?]

please write me back today about how you feel. There is a lack of communication and this needs to be fixed.

[I would not say there has been a lack of communication. To date, we have discussed claims and valid criteria in depth--several times. Please let me know how I can help. I am an animal lover myself. I follow this issue and am extremely interested. I look forward to reading your essay.

for now,

jvan

Ms. x replies:

Thank you for writing me back. I feel that the communication between us has been a battle not a discussion.i blame myself for a lot of that. i have been very stressed out lately and that is why i got so angry the other day. yes i do agree that the health and well being of the wildlife needs to be evaluated. when i use the media is it ok to say that the effect of why wildlife conservation is so poor is because of the ignorence of the public? i thought this may be a good comparitive to use because the media doesn't feel that it is that important, but the organizations do. i hope that makes sense to you.

you told us today that in every arguement there has to be an opposing side, i think the media may be the best opposing side i have. i will make changes to my essay based on our conversations and try to cut out some of the media that i put in there. i was wondering if it is ok for me to still include that side of the media for the comparitive part. please write me back before thursday so i can adjust my paper to the criteria that you want. i want an A in this class and i am willing to try my hardest to comply with what you want.i really appreciate you taking the time to write me back. your reply to my concerns has helped me a lot. Thank You.

X

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 00:17:42 -0700 (MST) From: jvanasu@imap2.asu.edu To: @imap4.asu.edu Subject: Re: Causal

ms x, if you want to send a breif outline of your paper including the claim and reasons, I will look at it in the morning and answer your questions. I'm too tired to read any more tonight. Please reply to this message so I have a record of our discussion.

for now, jvan