MOORE NEWS Volume I June 26, 1996 Issue 7 SALUTATIONS My AOL system died sometime Sunday afternoon (June 23). I don't know what mail was left unsent and lost or what new mail was sitting in my inbox at the time of death, so if you find me unresponsive, I did not die, only AOL. Please resend your communication. I probably didn't get it. We're approaching an anniversary of sorts. Here's the message from Judy Alley that started us on this journey May 30th. It was sent to TMoore7771, TBeng, HuckLor, JBrown7169, LBFULMER, RamonaBG, Cfmoor "I noticed there are quite a few "on liners" who are working on the Moores. We should get together." Forty Moores now participate in our Moore Family Study. Every week, five or six new people toss their Moore hats into our ring. This week, I cleaned up and reorganized my Moore files - one folder, I confess, is called "What To Do?" I ran across a couple of items I had misfiled during the initial rush. Please let me know if you sent a Query that hasn't been distributed or if you've been meaning to send a Query and haven't. I'm at the bottom of our Query file. NEW MEMBERS FREDERICK MOORE (Frederi592) sends information about his Ohio family ******Fred Moore born 11/22/31- Port Jefferson NY- son of Karl F and Mildred Moore. Karl was born in Sept 1902 in Rushylvania, Ohio. He had a brother Truman and a sister Opal. Their parents were William David Moore born Dec 15,1879 in Ohio and Martha Strasburg Moore born about 1884 in Ohio. William D. Moore was son of John Wesley Moore who was born north of Ripley Ohio on Jan 14,1854 and was married to Sarah Craig whose parents were David, born July 20,1824, and Hannah born Oct 20,1824, in Ohio. My grandmother, Martha Strasburg Moore's mother's maiden name was also Moore. but from a branch of the family from Virginia. I once met a woman in NYC who was married to a Moore from Virginia who said that there were Moore's in Va who looked a lot like me - so? By the way - my mother was a Mc Clure and her mother was a Mustaine. They came from Pittsylvania Co, Va. and received a grant from the King of England for the land. That branch of the family - Mustaine - is well documented. Hope that gives someone a start on linking up the Ohio and the Virginia families. ------------ ALLISON (DOOLEY) VACHON (ciceron@aol.com) living in Pensacola, FL, former Navy WAVE, defense contractor, public administrator, and presently Political Science/Pre-Law student at the University of West Florida, AND beginner genealogist with lots of old letters, documents, and photographs waiting at her mother's house for an Independence Day 1996 free-for-all about the family. So, a brief lineage from a MOORE great-great-grandmother: ANNIE MOORE married JOHN GARDHAM very likely in Alberta around 1880-85. They had 6 children: BLANCHE ADA, ROY, KIRK, LAURA, CARRIE (m. Lou McCurdy and remained in Canada), and MILDRED GARDHAM. BLANCHE ADA GARDHAM (my great grandmother) married PHILIP ADEN PERKINS (in Northwest Montana around 1910-15). They had a son RAYMOND PHILIP PERKINS m. MERLE "CHUB" ELAINE CLAUDIA BUSH (also in Montana) who had a daughter ERIN "PAT" BLANCHE PERKINS b. 1931, Kalispell, MT (my mother) who married GERALD FLETCHER DOOLEY (Annapolis, MD) who had a daughter ALLISON DOOLEY. I know I'm working with small pickens' with just the name ANNIE MOORE in Canada. Help. -------- HELENJS tells us about a Moore family we haven't heard from before. ******I am helenjs. and I live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I have been researching Moores for about two years and have numerous files of non-conclusive material. My Moore connection is Thomas Moore, born July 18, 1779. Family history has it that he was born in North Carolina, but he told the 1850 census taker in Georgia it was Maryland. He married Rachel Stephens in Wilkes County, Ga., 1813. Thomas' grandson wrote down the history (or what he believed to be) in about 1900, but I am having trouble proving. He states that the first of these Moores landed at the falls of the James River in 1720. Thomas Moore, I, and his wife, Polly Brown, had 8 sons and 3 daughters. Thomas, II, and three of his brothers went to North Carolina. William went to North Georgia. The three remaining brothers stayed in Virginia, as did the daughters. Thomas, II, was said to have married Savannah (Susanna) Watkins from Henrico Co., Va. They had eight sons and three daughters. Two sons went to Tennessee in 1806, three went to Georgia in 1808. Briton, Jeptha and John Moore remained in North Carolina. The daughters, Mrs. Reeves, Mrs. Oliver, and Mrs. Percyman, also went to Georgia. Thomas Moore, II, and his wife moved to what is now Moore County, N.C., and he died there in 1828. Thomas and Rachel named their children: Willis S., Archibald Henry, Jeptha W., Sarah, Elvira, Lucinda. She died and he remarried and had: Thomas Tillman, Wiltz, Catherine, George and John. I did locate Brittain Moore from Virginia, living in Caswell County, North Carolina around 1800. He married, second, Isabell Terrell. I have not located Jeptha. Old land records in Caswell show that Brittain came from Dinwiddie, Virginia. I did locate a Thomas Moore living in Rockingham County, who was a neighbor of William Reeves. Does anyone have anything on Brittain or the Moores in Caswell? The Johns and Thomas's are too numerous to sort out. QUERIES I did an Oops! in last Wednesday's issue and am reprinting a query, this time with the correct name of the submitter! LINDA (LBFULMER) is seeking the family of Rebecca MOORE, who married William FRAME in Clark Co., KY, on 30 April 1811. The 1810 census for Clark Co lists 6 Moore families, and each had females that could have been Rebecca Moore: Wm. Moore, Elizabeth Moore, Anthony Moore, Obediah Moore, Philip Moore, and Catherine Moore. Which, if any, is Rebecca's family? Rebecca and her family probably have VA origins. Note from Joyce: Look under "Colonial Moores" in this issue. The Albemarle/Amherst Moore family had several generations of "Obediah" Moore. -------- TOM (TMOORE7771) sent the following query some time ago. *****My grandfather, Richard Edward Moore, was born on 31 Aug 1886 in Nashville, Davidson, Co, TN. His parents were Richard Oliver Moore and Mary McDonnell -- I discovered this from his SSN application. My grandfather (I never knew him - he died before I was born) never talk about his family. The little sketchy information I have came from my father's memory. It is believed that my grandfather left TN around the year 1900 at the age of 14 to live with relatives in Atlanta GA. The reason for his leaving is unknown, but speculation is that his parents died about that time. Sometime within the next ten years, he moved north and around 1916-17 he married my grandmother, Elizabeth Elanore Freidle. They married in Philadelphia PA and remained there. If anyone can offer me some help, especially around the TN area, I would appreciate it. If I can help you, please email. One more note before I sign off. I belong to a MOORE mailing list on the internet. If any is interested in subscribing to it, the address is: majordomo@wildcat.mv.com. Add the message "Subscribe Moore-L" to get you on the list. -------- Here's a question from HARRY (H Silcox) whose been away in southwest VA looking after the grandchildren while a new one, Kimberly, was being born Maybe we can help him find his ancestors in NC while he looks after the Moore younger set. ****In 1847 Lucinda Elkins married James W. Muirhead (Moorehead) in Stokes Co. Does any one, except the police, have any info on these two. They are my gg-grandparents. A lot of couples went to NC from Va to get married, so I'm not sure Lucinda is a Tar Heel. James W. isn't, he lived on New River where Peak Creek inters. This land is now on the bottom of Claytor Lake. RESPONSES TO QUERIES BOB MOORE (Patwarnes) asked how he could obtain the book Ken Moore (KenMo) has written about his family. Ken's response: I have a few of the family books still available. I have been asking for an amount of $15.00 which covers only the cost of printing and mailing. Send your address and a cheque to: Kenneth W. Moore 65 Spring Garden Ave. Apt. 2004 North York, ON, Canada M2N 6H9 JUDY ALLEY (JudyAlley) has been trying to find Peter Moore, not an orthodox Moore name, but doesn't seem to have had a hit yet. PAUL PHIPPS (PaulPhipps), a new member, asked "Olga" and she came up with a response. *****I don't have a Peter Moore in "Olga", name I've given my computer. However, I did find a Peter in the 1830 Census of Grayson Co., VA. Peter age 60-70 and wife age 60-70. He is not in 1820 or 1840 Census. COUPS ARE FABULOUS! ... a triumph for patience and a thrill for the heart of every family historian who kept on asking the next question. A recent inquiry sent to a Bates family researcher netted this revelation. *****The question: who was Caroline Matilda Woodson who married Thomas Bates in a Quaker ceremony in Henrico County in 1770. This response is from Witt Bates@aol.com: ***** This is one of our most prominent Bates famines. They had several sons, all of whom made a mark in the world. For instance, 1. Son Edward Bates from VA & MO was Atty. General in Lincoln's Cabinet 2. Son Frederick Bates was 2nd governor of Missouri 3. James Woodson Bates, Representative from Ark (Batesville, Ark named in his honor) 4. The most promising son Tarleton Bates, killed in what is called "the last duel" in Pittsburgh, Pa 5. Other sons (Fleming and Richard) were lawyers in Virginia. Caroline Matilda (Woodson) Bates died in St. Louis, MO. She went there with her son Edward Bates. John Bates (1598-1666) arrived in Virginia aboard the 'Southampton' in 1623. Book "Purse & Persons" gives account of John Bates (First Families of Virginia - FFV). *****Another response was received from Bob Humphreys (rhumph@aug.com): Caroline Matilda Woodson, she was born 10/17/1751. Her husband's name was Thomas Fleming Bates. Her parents were Charles Woodson and Agnes Parsons. She and Thomas had the following children: Edward (underage in 1803), Frederick, James Woodson, Tarleton, Charles Fleming, Ann, Caroline Matilda, Margaret, and Sally. ------ JUDY ALLEY (JudyAlley) who we've found knows a thing or two about family history research sends this response to LINDA (LBFulmer) which will help anyone contemplating court house research from afar or close up. *****Regarding SW Va research: some of the courthouses are beginning to restrict their responses to genealogy requests. Wythe County will send you a list of local professionals to contact. Pulaski, Grayson and Carroll are still very easy to deal with. Usually the statement "Proof of relationship" will get better results than using "genealogy research" Something I found regarding the old deed books...it is easy to read the original but the courthouse copiers aren't the greatest. If you have them send you a copy or if you make it yourself it is well worth the time to make notes regarding information on the document. Also make a copy of the marriage register page listing all those in the county under the name you are researching. In other words copy the Moore page. I did this for about 8 family names in Carroll County and I refer to the copies frequently. As one paper/book leads to another, especially the type you are talking about, I suggest you make a trip to Va. The counties and their seats are: Wythe County-Wytheville, Grayson County -Independence, Carroll County-Hillsville, Pulaski County - Pulaski. They are not too far apart. All but the first are very small country towns filled with friendly people. I haven't been to Wytheville since High School days so I can't tell you much about it. I plan to visit all of them in late summer. COLONIAL MOORES Below are excerpts of colonial Moores in Albemarle Co VA. In 1985, a gentlemen named Charley Moore separated the various Albemarle Moore families, compiled family charts on each one, and filed them at the Albemarle Historical Society. The below information is a summary. Most birth dates are approximate. THE NORTHEAST ALBEMARLE MOORES *****JOHN MOORE, born about 1710 in Ireland, mar. 1) Mary Jouett? and 2) Mary Bullock. He came to VA as attorney to Gov of VA and received 5000 ac patent in Albemarle Co. Children: Matthew, b 1738, m. Letitia Dalton; Frances b 1746, m John Henderson; Elizabeth, b 1747, m. 1) Tucker Woodson and 2) Joseph Crockett; John, Jr., b 1750, m Martha Harvie; Mary, b 1748 m Capt John Clark; Ann (Nancy) b 1755, m Turner Hamner; Sussana b 1757, m David Bullock; Martha, b 1759, m Andrew McAlley; Edward b 1761, m Mildred Lewis; James b 1762, m Elizabeth Hamner. HARDWARE RIVER MOORES *****JOHN MOORE born 29 Apr 1794, son of Robert and Roxanna Warren Moore of Spotsylvania Co. m 1) Judith Walker(?) and 2) Agness Melton. Children: Jesse, b 11 Apr 1743, m Alley Johnson (To NC); Warren m. Anne Seay; Judith m. ____ Coker; Molley m. Abraham Strange; Easter m. _____ Oglesby; Rebecca m. John Seay; Susanna m ____Perry; John; William m Elizabeth Johnson. Jesse Moore's children: Daniel b 1764 m Rachel Stone; Mollie b 1766, m James Coffee; Jesse b 1768, m Elizabeth Stone; Millie b 1770 m Ambrose Coffee; Alley b 1772 m Alexander Wakefield; John b 1774 unm; Biddie b 1775 m Lewis Coffee; Rebecah b 1777 m Elijah Chambers; Betsy b 1780 m William Morgan; Judith b 1782; Nancy b 1786. ALBEMARLE/AMHERST COUNTY MOORES *****WILLIAM MOORE d after 1784 m Hanna Harris(?). Children Obediah b 1740 (To Albemarle Co); Mary m ---- Mattox; Judith m Pierce; Benjamin m Lettisha Martin; Elizabeth m John Crawford; William; John m Frances. Benjamin Moore's children: Thomas Moore b 1831 m Sally McDowell; Elizabeth m Richard Perkins; Milly m Hardin Perkins; Benjamin b 1770 m Polly Perkins; Obediah d before 1802; Sally m Andrew Donald; John b 1765; William 1750-1802. John Moore's children: /Tabitha m Henry Sprouse; Hanna Harris m --- Humphry; John b 1765; William b 1765; Tandy m Sally Bridgewater (To Green Co KY); Obediah m Agnes Cowherd Tandy Moore's children: Schuyler; William m Lucinda Gentry; Thomas m ---- Botts; Nancy; Samuel; Alexander; Elizabeth m _____ Botts. WESTERN ALBEMARLE MOORES *****BENJAMIN MOORE arrived in Albemarle by a lengthy route. His ancestors immigrated from England to Massachusetts in 1636, a later ancestor went to Long Island NY, and a still later one to Essex Co NJ where Benjamin was born in 1745 and m his wife, Martha. They migrated to Albemarle Co about 1773. Children: Platt b 1767 m Mildred Langford; Isaac b 1769 m Hanna; Samuel b 1771 m ___ Maule; Martha m John Patterson; Benjamin b 1778 m Susanna Burton; Abigail b 1780 m David Dove; Elizabeth b 1781 m Anthony Lines; John Jackson 1783-1860 m 1) Susanna Barnett in 1809 and 2) Nancy Thacker in 18ll; Nancy b 1784 m David Patterson. Isaac Moore's children: Susan m Peter Lowery; Mary (Polly) m John Zumbra (To Rutherford Co TN); Jacon m Isabella; Martha m William Estes; James m Jane Koiner (to Rutherford Co TN); Elizabeth m John Thomas; Jane m Thomas Harris. BIOGRAPHY This author of the following piece must have been carrying a mighty potent grudge. His statement about the character of our Virginia ancestors was extracted from the History of Guthrie and Adair Counties, Iowa (1884). *****Abraham Moore, in 1850, made a settlement north of Morrisburg on Section 5, where he took up some 160 acres of land, and where he resided until 1874 when he died and passed to the reward on high prepared for all just men. He was a native of the Old Dominion State, and, like all Virginians, had the peculiar characteristics of all Southern people, mellowed by contact with the more lymphatic temperaments of the Northern race, brought about by years of contact. . . . He married in Ohio 16 November 1842, Mary Williams, daughter of William Williams. Four children: William mar 1867 Jennie Spear; Eliza J. mar Jesse Crowell, now in Nebraska; Lewis, living in Dale City; Sarah T. mar Neri Conner, now in Nebraska. Lewis mar 1870 Michael A. Tam, dau of John S. and Sytha A. Bishop Tam MOORE MISCELLANY This is continuation of an extract begun last week from "The North Carolina Booklet, Great Events in North Carolina History," January 1920, Vol XIX - No. 3. All of the text is quoted from the diary of President George Washingotn. *****"Friday,3. . . Having this day passed the line of North Carolina and, of course, finished my tour thro' the three southernmost states, a general description of them may be comprised in the following few words. From the Seaboard to the falls of all the rivers, which water the lands, except the swamps on the rivers and the lesser streams which empty into them and the interval lands higher up the rivers is with but few exceptions neither more nor less than a continued pine barren, very thinly inhabited. The part next the Seaboard for many miles is a dead level and badly watered.. . . . The lands above the falls of the several rivers from information, and as far as my own observation has extended, is of a very superior kind, from their being of a greasy red with large oaks intermixed with hickory, chestnut, etc., excelling in producing corn, tobacco, wheat, hemp and other articles in great abundance and are generally thickly inhabited, comparatively speaking with those below. . . . [The diary resumes in the area of Halifax and Prince Edward Counties in Virginia] "Sunday, 5th. Left the Old Town about four o'clock a.m., and breakfasted at one Pridies' (after crossing Bannister River one and a half miles) about eleven miles from it, came to Stanton River, about twelve, where meeting Col. Isaac Coles (formerly a member of Congress for this district) and who pressing me to it, I went to his house, about one mile off to dine and to halt a day for the refreshment of myself and horses, leaving my servants and them at one of the usually indifferent taverns at the Ferry that they might be no trouble or be inconvenient to a private family. "Monday, 6th. Finding my horses fared badly at the Ferry for want of grass and Col. Coles kindly pressing me they were accordingly brought there to take the run of it until night. Dined with the gentleman today also. The road from Halifax Old Courthouse or Town to Stanton River, passes for the most part over this land, a good deal mixed with pine. "Tuesday, 7th. Left Col. Coles by daybreak and breakfasted at Charlotte C. H., 15 miles, where I was detained some time to get shoes put on such horses as had lost them, proceeded afterwards to Prince Edward C. H. 20 miles further. . . . . "Wednesday, the 8th. Left Prince Edward C.H. as soon as it was well light, and breakfasted at one Treadway's, 13 miles off, dined at the Cumberland C. H. 14 miles further and lodged at MOORE'S TAVERN within 2 miles from Carter's Ferry, over James River. The road from Prince Edward C.H. to Treadway's was very thickly settled, altho the land appeared thin and the growth is a great degree pine, and from Treadway's to Cumberland, C.H., they were equally thickly settled, on better land, less mixed, and in places not mixed with pine. The buildings appeared to be better. "Thursday, 9th. Set off very early from MOORE'S but the proper ferry being hauled up, we were tedious while crossing in one of the boats used in navigation of the river, being obliged to carry one carriage at a time, without horses and crossways the boat, on planks. Breakfasted at a Widow Pain's 17 miles on north side of the river and lodged at a Mr. Jordon's, a private house, where we were kindly entertained, and to which we were driven by necessity by having rode not less than 25 miles from our breakfasting stop thru' very bad roads on a very sultry day without any rest and by missing the right road got lost." __________________________________________________ MOORE NEWS: Compiled from email and other sources Distributed by Joyce Browning cJBrown7159@AOL.com 26 June 1996