MOORE NEWS Volume II 12 March, 1997 Issue 12 SALUTATIONS Notes from the Editor: MOORE NEWS is now distributed in point-9 type face. I know it's hard to read for tired, old eyes like mine; but space is limited to about 7 pages of text per email message and the smaller type face is needed in order to transmit the full issue. If it's just impossible for you to read, I suggest you copy it and paste it to your a new document in your word processor or, if you have the capability, save it as an 'edit' document. Either way, you can adjust the type face to a more comfortable size. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Over the past few months (especially around Christmas), people have asked if I have bound copies of MOORE NEWS which they can send to relatives or contribute to local Historical Societies and Libraries. As these requests increase, I've looked into the cost of doing this (using a more comfortable type face). The least expensive, but presentable, way of doing this is to spiral bind each volume using a printed soft cover. Cost per volume, including mailing expense, would be $20-$30 for Volume 1, which covers six months and contain about 300 pages. Volume 2 would be compiled until the end of 1997. A second option is also feasible though more expensive initially. I would provide aribers. Initial cost would be greater, but maintenance costs would be less than the spiral bound volume. If there is sufficient interest, I'll begin preparing a hard copy compilation of MOORE NEWS, with 'designer' cover and index. Please let me know if you are interested in supporting a hard copy compilation of MOORE NEWS. If there is sufficient interest, I'll begin preparation. QUERIES LAVERNE (mar523@aol.com) ******Thomas J. Moore married Matilda Elizabeth McElroy 22 Dec 1872 in Ellis Co. TX. Matilda Elizabeth (Lizzie) was born 21 June 1847 in Rutherford Co. TN, daughter of Matthew Lile McElroy and Minerva Jane Witherspoon (my great great grandparents). I'm interested in any info on Thomas & Lizzie's children. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (DawnF1863@aol.com) *****I'm still in need of information on Hannah Moore b. 1816/17 in Ohio, father born in Pa. and mother born in Del. Hannah married Ira Webber in Washington Co., Ohio in1835. They lived in Nobler Co, Ohio till 1865 when they moved to Brown Co., Indiana. Hannahs parents may have lived in Virginia for a time before coming to Ohio before 1816. Need to know the names of Hannah parents. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DAVID HOBBS (Dcornet@aol.com) *****I am still looking for any info about Asberry MOORE b. abt 1820 in SC. He was the father of Amanda "Nellie" Moore and Jim S. Moore. Amanda was the wife of Philip Orr Stovall Sugg of Pickens Co. AL and Calhoun Co. MS. Jim S. Moore was a Confederate soldier from AL during the War between the States. Asberry Moore is listed on the death certificate of Amanda Moore Sugg along with Asberry's wife "A.A.". Anyone knowing anything about this family please contact me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - CATHY HART FARRIS (cfarris@netdex.com) *****I'm trying to find parents of Andrew J. Moore born abt 1812 of Anderson Co SC. formerly Pendleton Dist. He married Maryan Wimpy in 1834 Rabun, Clayton Co GA. From there they moved to Marion Co AL on 1850 census. In the same year 1850 they were also found on McMinn TN census. By 1860 they migrated to Ouachita Co AR. The census shows there is an Eli & Jordan Moore, both of Anderson SC. Both are listed with sons that are the right age to be my Andrew. All of them were in Rabun in 1830, so were the Wimpys. Does anyone have a clue that will help me? Other notes: Heirs of David Moore and David Wimpey both lived on 26 Mile Creek. David's son Robert, had a son named Andrew J. Moore who proved Robert's will in Abbeville Co. David Wimpy, Sr had a son, Eden which is where that name came into Andrew J. and Maryan's family. Jordan Moore was in Greenville in 1820, Rabun Co, GA in 1830 and in Pickens Co, SC in 1840. Sometime between 1830 and 1840 Jordan moved back to SC. My Andrew J. had a son Willie Aden, and William Eli which are names in the Wimpy and Moore family. Any HELP will be greatly appreciated. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SANDY SANFORD (GOLFOGEY@aol.com) *****Here is my query: My Moore line is as follows: (1) John Moore (born and died when and where?) md when and where to Nancy _____ (born and died when and where?). Perhaps her maiden name was LEE or MORROW according to the DAR Patriot Index, Centennial Edition on pg 2064. John and Nancy had: (2) William P. Moore, b 13 Apr 1784 where?; d 25 Jul 1825 in Jefferson Co., IN; md Elizabeth Foster on 9 Jul 1801/02 where? Elizabeth was b 10 May 1790 where?, and d 19 Jun 1844 in Jefferson Co., IN. William and Elizabeth had: (3) Elkanah Moore, b 18 Jan 1812 where in KY?; d 25 Mar 1890 Knoxville, IL; md 18 Apr 1844 perhaps in IL to Nancy Ann Elder (1814 OH --- 1891 IL). Elkanah had 9 siblings, some (4) Emma Alwilda Moore, b 20 Oct 1853 in Knoxville, IL; d 7 Dec 1933 . I was only 8 years old and I remember her. She married Sydney Wilberforce Ireland (1843 IL --- 1918 CA) on 20 Oct 1870 in Woodland, CA. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks in advance. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DIANNE (peterson@ee.net) *****I'm looking for information on Joel Moore and Wife Judy Gibson. In the Scott Co. tax list of 1815 and the 1820 census. They had at least two daughter, probably born in the early 1800s: Susie May died bef 1850 married Solomon Sexton. Nancy died aft 1860 married William Sexton. (m. Scott Co. 18 Feb. 1831) In the 1820 census: Joel Moore 0-10 males 3, females 2 10-16 males 2, females 1 16-18 males 0, females 1 18-26 males 0, females 1 26-45 males 0, females 0 over 45 males 1, females 1 All Help appreciated! Dianne RESPONSES JUDY ALLEY (JudyAlley@aol.com) *****At last, someone who mentions Peter Sr, and Peter Jr. I don't think my Peter Sr and Peter Jr are the ones you are looking for, but thought I would send the info to you anyway. Never know when it might prove useful. Source: Carroll 1765-1815 (Carroll County, Virginia) by John Perry Alderman (deceased) page 133-134 " There is a traditional genealogy which states that Peter Moore was a Dutch immigrant, but that is to be doubted. What is known is that he came to the lower reaches of Big Reed Island Creek about 1803 and appears on the Grayson tax records of 1804. His son Charles Moore had been born about 1798 in Sullivan County TN (record of Charles second marriage in 1854 in Carroll clerk's office) so it can be presumed that Peter had lived there before migrating eastward to the New River settlement. "He bought 110 acres from Zachariah Stanley in 1809 (Grayson deed book 2-492) It is likely that he had settled on the property when he first came and had paid Stanley in installments. There are not many records of Peter; he does not appear in the early court records and there is no mention of him in the will book although he seems to have died in the county a little before 1820. "No list of children is found in the Grayson records. It is known from the marriage records of Charles that he is was one of the children of and the same record indicates that Peter's wife was named Jane. Charles lived in the county all his life and is the ancestor of the Moores in the Pine Creek area. There was a Henry Moore taxed in 1815 who was likely another son and a Peter Moore who married Rebecca Breeding in 1815 in Wythe County is said to have been another. The younger Peter was a veteran of the War of 1812 and had a brother Ammon who was in the militia with him and who died at Norfolk. In summary, there would seem to be four sons: Charles, Peter Jr., Ammon and Henry. Very probably there were other children whose names are unknown today." Note #1: I have a copy of Peter Moore, Jr's settlement of estate of Ammon Moore...provided no additional information Note #2..I checked the Carroll Court House for a copy of Charles Moore's second marriage...they couldn't find it...Mr. Alderman died last summer and they did not know where he found the record or where he put it after he recorded it for the book.... Note#3..I plan or ordering a copy of the deed of 1809 for my files Note #4: Peter Moore Jr and his wife Rebecca Breeding are my direct line.... They lived in Pulaski County and were the grandparents of my paternal grandmother Lucinda Belle Moore Nunn. Note #5: Peter Jr. was born about 1794 so I fear this set of Peter Sr/Peter Jr are are not yours.... Note #6: Lee....Harry Silcox (HSilcox) is my cousin and we are working on the family genealogy together. COLONIAL MOORES Can anyone identify the family of Revolutionary War Col. William Moore of Caswell County NC who is featured below with Col. Stephen Moore, also Caswell County? Col. Stephen Moore is a member of the family of John Moore of SC/PA/NY//NC who was featured in an earlier issue. TERRY BRADSHAW (kon646@airmail.net) *****Source: Moore/Stanford/Webb Chronicles. Volume 2, Number 2, 1994 COL. MOORE OF CASWELL COUNTY, NC STEPHEN OR WILLIAM? In the course of studying Stephen Moore as he moved his family from New York to North Carolina and established himself as a planter, merchant and citizen active in local affairs, there have been several instances of a Col. Moore of Caswell County being mentioned, but it didn't seem likely that it was Stepehen Moore to whom the reference was made. Using many varied sources, it soon became apparent that there were several Moore families living in the area of Orange County that in 1777 became Caswell County, and that there were two men who later were referred to as Colonel Moore of Caswell. Some of the citations to events that were attributed to Stephen Moore are more likely to have occurred in the life of Col. William Moore. Col. William Moore appears in the records of Caswell county from its formation in 1777. William S. Powell's "When the Past Refused to Die: History of Caswell County 1777-1977" lists six men by the name of Moore/More in the northern part of Orange County who signed a petition to Gov. Tryon in 1771 to form a new county: Arthur, James, John, George, Richard and William, and later records list Abram, Dempsey, Moses and Samuel Moore. The same book states that in 1777 William Moore served on a commmission charged with finding and laying out the place where the court house, prison & stocks would be built, was appointed one of the first Justices of the Cuonty (as was Stephen Moore), and was chosen Clerk of the Court. In additin, William Moore was appointed as an overseer of certain roads, and was designated a Lt. Col. of the state militia. These offices closely parallel the offices and appointments of Stephen Moore. Examination of the tax lists and deed records helps to distinguish between the two men. William Moore's land holdings were in the western part of the county, while Stephen Moore's land were in the south east corner of the county which was eventually incorporated into Person County in 1792. According to pension applications of several different men, William Moore was already an active Militiaman when Stephen Moore arrived in North Carolina in late 1775 or early 1776. the pension application of James Turner states that he served two tours of duty in 1776 under Col. William Moore, one of 2 months duration from April to June, the other from July to September. This second tour was an expedition against the Indians on the western NC frontier. James Turner's third tour commenced 29 May 1780 under Col. Stephen Moore, and he then participated in the Battle of Camden. From various other pension applications, it is possible to determine that William Moore participated in many expeditions, skirmishes and battles of the war: Apr 1776-Turner; Jul 1776-Turner, J Ray; 1778 or 9-Indian expedition-McBroom; Camden-Aug 1780-J Dollar, B Long, J Clayton; Pyle's Defeat-Feb 1781-T Miles; Guilford CH-Mar 1781-W McMenemy, A McBroome. . . . . . . Eventually, William More moved to Smith co., TN, and was living there in 1823, according to his own pension file. He was born about 1750, making him about 16 years younger than Stephen Moore. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - HARRY SILCOX (H Silcox@aol.com) responding to the ongoing, apparently never ending search for Peter Moore, see above: JUDY ALLEY(JudyAlley@aol.com) *****Found one Peter Cox Moore, "NC Wills: a testator index, 1665-1900" Warren County 1790. Recorded copy WB-5/191. Original will is in the NC State Archives, Raleigh. Could this be he? Also found a Randol Moore. State Census 1734-1787 1wm 21-60 1wf All ages RESEARCH (DawnF1863@aol.com) ******Washington Co., Ohio early marriages of Moore's-- John Moore m. Catherine Smith Feb. 25, 1827 David Moore m. Mary Stanton Dec. 10, 1829 George Moore m. Anna Sharp Sept. 3, 1835 Levi Moore m. Sarah Meyers Nov. 2, 1837 Abraham Moore m. Rachel Moore Oct. 12, 1839 John Moore m. Eliza Ann Wharff Sept. 29, 1839 Cyrus Ames m. Azuba More May 3, 1801 Walker Turner m. Mrs. Catherine Moore Nov. 28, 1826 Henry James m. Mary C. Moore July 2, 1829 Eli Green m. Barbary Moore May 4, 1832 Joseph D. Clark m. Mary Moore May 28, 1829 Some Noble Co., Ohio Moore Death Records John Moore, age 25, d. Feb. 21, 1872 b. Brookfield Twp., Oh. Teacher Rhoda Moore d. Aug. 8, 1872 Alanzo Moore d. Oct. 20, 1872 age 2, b. Noble Co. parents Henry and Mary Moore F.W. Moore d. Apr. 25, 1874 in Caldwell, OH. age 28, lawyer, born Brookfield Twp. E.H. Moore d. Jan 12, 1875 in Buffalo Twp. b. Noble Co. OH. Parents LeRoy A. and Margaret Moore. Hannah Moore d. Apr. 8, 1878 age 104 Buffalo Twp. b. Harrison Twp. of old age, resident of Buffalo Twp. William J. Moore d. Mar. 30, 1879 age 60 4 mo. 12 days, died Caldwell, b. Harrison Co., painter. Father--Micheal Moore MOORE MISCELLANY *****Below is a slice of colonial life that we should all consider, especially those of us whose ancestral line comes to a dead stop. Many of these "lost" Moores are probably children who grew up in a household other than a Moore household. Below are excerpts from an essay published in "The Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century," edited by Thad W. Tate and David L. Ammerman. 1979. "Now-Wives and Sons-in-Law": Parental Death in a Seventeenth-Century Virginia County by Darrett B. and Anita H. Rutman. "In the name of God Amen . . ." With the customary words Maximilian Petty, "planter" and undersheriff of Middlesex County, Virginia, "sick and weake in Body," began his last will and testament in the closing days of 1687. to his God he bequeathed his soul, to the grave his body, and to his wife and children "those Worldly Goods the Lord hath lent me." With a matter of weeks after writing his will Petty was dead; his wife, Christian, was a young widow; and his two children, Maximilian and Ann, were fatherles. Young Max was just ten, Ann seven and a half. To us in the twentieth century there is a sadness to such a death. The plight of young widowhood and of fatherless children is enough of an anomaly in our society to give us pause. But there was no such anomaly in late seventeenth century Virginia. Indeed, few of the children of this time and place reached their majority without losing at lest one parent, while over a third lost both. Parental death was a part of the fabric of life. The extensiveness of parental death in early Virginia shows itself in the course of an in-depth study of community organization and life in one county -- Petty's own Middlesex. A long splinter of land bounded by the Rappahannock River and Chesapeake Bay on the north and east, the Piankatank River and Dragon Swamp on the south and west, Middlesex was first settled about mid-century. From York River and the Eastern Shore, from Northumberland on the Potomac, and from England, men and women had entered the land, some simply to take up acreage, resell, then move on, but most to settle permanently, raising corn and tobacco, cattle and children. (Richard Perrott Jr., born in February 1651, was, as the parish register carefully noted, "the first Man Child that was gott and borne in Rappahannock River of English parents.") Servants and free laborers arrived, worked for a time, then moved on or found land in the county to patent, buy, or rent. Ver quickly a permanent, stable population appeared. By the late 1660s, when both the county and the coterminous parishof Christ Church had been organized, the area was home to some 90 families. In 1687 a militia report on the households of the county capable of supplying horses and arms for defensive purpoises gives indication of 142 families, while a best estimate places the total population at 1,225. Just over a generation later (1724) the minister of Christ Church reported to the bisop of London that there were some 260 white families in his parish, while the total population can be estim ated at 1,560 white men, women, and children and 820-odd blacks. Names from the earliest days of the county -- Perrot, Wormeley,Kemp, Minor, Tuggle -- were still there one, two, three generations later (some are even still there today). Some names disappeared as surnames but cropped up subsequently as first names, indicative of family memories of family ties. Ther are no Eltonhead surnames in the parish reister, for example, but the 1678 entry of the birth of Eltonhead Stanard is in a real sense a memorial to four Eltonhead sisters who underlie som many Middlesex families -- Agatha, who married first Ralph Wormeley, the Sir Henry Chicheley; Alice, who married in order Rowland Burnham, Henry Corbin, and Henry Creek; Eleanor, wife of Middlesex's William Brocas, the Lancaster's John Carter (living just across the Rappahannock on Corotoman Creek); and Martha, who married Edwin Conaway and was the grandmother of the eltonhead Stanard of 1678. Marriage and remarriage was a way of life, and in its complexities one first senses the magnitude of parental loss. ============================================================================== Back issues of MOORE NEWS available at: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/ne ws ================================================================== MOORE NEWS: Compiled from email and other sources Distributed by Joyce Browning (C)JBrown7169@AOL.com 12 March 1997