MOORE NEWS Volume II March 26, 1997 Issue 14 SALUTATIONS Thanks so much to all of you who wrote that since I abandoned AOL's system 3.0, the technical problems we were experiencing were straightened out. Sometimes technology moves overwhelms itself, I guess. I retreated back to 2.7 without event, but I have heard from a few people who subscribed while I was working with the group address system of the 3.0 system and wonder why they are not receiving MOORE NEWS. If you know of others who had the same experience, please explain and ask them to contact me again because their addresses are now lost in cyberspace. One suggestion that came through for us non-techical subscribers is that we can vary the manner in which our own computers receive incoming mail. I don't know how other services do this, so I'll describe AOL's method. From the pulldown menu, select "Members," the select "Set Preferences" from that menu. That takes you to a list of a categories. Using this index, you can change the defaults that control the way your computer controls designated actions. QUERIES LYNN MOORE (LLMOORE007@AOL.COM) *****I'm searching for information on William Moore b1830 in AL. Married Dollie Thurman b1846 in TX. They had 6 children: Sarah b1869; Gillie b1870; Rigsdale b1872; William b1874; James J. b 28 Feb 1877, Millwood TX (James was married to Bessie Lee Bunker b1883 OK); and Arthur b1878. I do not have they locations of where the children were born and the dates are approximate. This is all I have. I do know the family spent time in Texas, and Oklahoma Indian Territory. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WAYNE WALKER ( wwalker@iglou.com) *****I would like to write anyone who has both Moore's & Paxton's in your lineage! William Moore born 1750 & died 1799 Rockbridge Co., Va.; had daughter, Julian Moore, born 1770-80 in Virginia & died 1850 Green County, Kentucky. Julian married Hugh Paxton born 1765-84 in Virginia & died in Green County, Ky. Any info on William Moore would be appreciated - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ELAINE RANDALL ENGLISH ( eng4@stc.net) *****I sure would like to know more about origins of Tinan/Teenan Moore . . . . DATA CONCERNING TINAN/TEENAN MOORE/MOOR The name Tinan/Teenan is not seen in the following areas except in these instances. The name seems to be very rare. A Teenan Moore married Margaret Bowen on 15 Jun 1797 in Guilford County, North Carolina. From: "Marriages of North and South Carolina" by Wm. M. Clemens. Tenan Moor is also found on the Knox County, Tennessee Tax List for 1806-Captain Bond's Company-with one white poll. From "East Tennessee Taxpayers." Compiled by Pollyanna Cheekmore; Southern Historical Press, P.O. Box 738, Easley, SC 29640. LCCC# 79-57154 Tennin Moore is found in the 1810 Census Index in Rutherford County, Tennessee. Teenan Moore is found on the 1820 Census in Claiborne County, Mississippi, page 9: Males: Females: Under 10: one 10 to 16: one 16 to 18: one 16 to 26: one 16 to 26: two 26 to 45: one over 45: one Also found the Claiborne County, Mississippi Census is: James Moore: 000010-00000-0 (on page 9 also) Francis Moore: 000030-10100-0 (page 4) James Moore: 000020-00200-0 (page 6) Jemima Moore: 210000-10010-0 (page 11) John Moore: 100101-00100-0 (page 6) Joseph Moore: 200020-00010-0 (page 4) William Moore: 000010-30010-0 (page 6) Tinan Moore is found on the 1830 Census in Copiah County, Mississippi: Males: Females: 10-20: one Under 10: one 60 +: one 20 to 40: one *I have found a notation I made that Tinan was in Claiborne County, Mississippi in the 1830 Census, but I have a copy from the book of the above, so it is probably right. From Grant Book: Copiah County, Mississippi: now in the Archives at Jackson, MS: 1: T. Moore-1834 Jan 15: 16338: 40 acres: S2 Lot 5 Section 28: Rate per acre: 1.25 2: Tinan Moore-1834 Jul 22: 12460: 40 acres: W2 Lot 5 Section 28: Rate per acre: 1.25 Land Record in Copiah County, Mississippi: 14 Aug 1838 Filed: 15 Aug 1838 Recorded: 20 Aug 1838: From Teenan Moore and wife (Elizabeth) of Copiah County to Jesse Griffin of Claiborne County. S 1/2 of W 1/2 of SE 1/4 and N 1/2 of W 1/2 of SE 1/4 of S28 Tll R5E 1840 Census: Tinnen Moore, Clarke Co., MS In the 1850 Census of Claiborne County, Mississippi: Thomas Moore Age 50 Born: TN Lida Age 25 Born: MS John G. Age 16 Margaret E. Age 12 Parmelia J. Age 10 Malinda A. Age 8 Thomas Age 4 Female Age 1 Teenan (Moore) Age 78 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - JUDI SPENCER (JudiSpencr) *****When time and space permit, I would to include an inquiry about my elusive Moore line. I am looking for a Rebecca Moore who ran off and married Dillingham Bangs Tilley about 1857. They lived in Boone Co., Ky. and this borders close to Ohio and Indiana (across the river), so they may have gone anywhere to marry. I have a birth for her as August 1838 according to the census and being born in Ky. Can anyone help me with the Boone Co., Ky, Moore line and specifically Rebecca Ann. She died about 1905 and is buried in Petersburg, Ky. RESPONSES LYNN PERKINS (nit@arn.net) responds to Mary Lou's question: I would like to know if you have any information on who your Grandpa Bart's parents were. You stated Clay Co AL., and a possibility of 2,000 Moores from that area. I am looking for Asa Moore b 1782 VA m Rebecca ? They migrated to Lawrence/Giles Cos TN, some went to AL, some to TX via Webster Co MO. You also stated Limestone Co. I have traced my Moores there also. *****The Moore family has many branches. Some are just now beginning to be traced. I have begun to believe, like Joyce, that the early MOORE's of Colonial America were somehow connected. I am talking about way before the Rev. War ca 1620-1730 The 2000 descendants I mentioned in my intro are just from Idens Moore and Frances Elizabeth Reeves marriage that took place ca 1838 in GA or AL. I have been fortunate to belong to a branch of the Moore family that had some very farsighted secretaries of our Moore reunion that kept genealogical records since they began meeting in 1934. Simply stated we know the entire (95% traced) family descending from this one couple. There is no Asa Moore in our records. I know it is hard to believe since 1838 in AL 2000 plus descendants came from one couple. The connection to your line if any will before 1817 and more likely before 1768 when my line of Quaker Moores who either emigrated or appear in Philadelphia by 1684 and immigrated from PA (ca 1751) to Hillsborough NC and then to Wrightsborough Georgia by 1768. In 1993 we were able to connect those 2000 descendants to the following two sources: Lewis D. Cook, Genealogies of PENNSYLVANIA FAMILIES, from the Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine, Volume II, Hinman-Scotcher, Baltimore Publishing Co., Inc. 1982, pages 246-271: "DAVID MEREDITH OF RADNOR, CHESTER COUNTY AND OF PLYMOUTH, PHILADELPHIA COUNTY, PENNA AND HIS STEP-CHILDREN SURNAMED MOORE" and the revised article , THE STEPCHILDREN OF DAVID MEREDITH pages 272 & 273 Lines and Lifestyles DICKEY, MOORE, PARSONS, and some Related Families, by Marjorie Dickie Parsons, copyright 1988, Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 88-82042. Majorie Parsons P.O. 156 Kingsland, GA 31548 I don't want to sound like I am promoting her book because I am not. I checked the index and there is no Asa Moore listed in her book. It just so happened my Idens Moore had a twin brother named Richard Moore. They were born 25 February 1817 near Clinton, Jones Co., GA. My grandfather George Bartlett Moore was the one who told the old family story to my mother and consequently I grew up with the knowledge he passed on. According to my grandfather, the twins' mother died shortly after their birth. If you look at the name "Idens", in Mrs. Parsons book she listed twins "Iddings" and Richard in some transcribed Bible records she discovered. Mrs. Parsons assumed in her book that the twins died because the mother died. My grandfather also said the twins had a brother Dave and two sisters whose names he did not recall. We (our Moore reunion bunch) had two unidentified pictures. Nobody knew who they were. One had Uncle Dave written on the back but no one recognized him. Mrs. Parsons published in her book a picture that was her ancestor David Herbert Moore, b. 1815 taken from the History of the Baptist Denomination in Georgia, compiled by the The Christian Index, 1881. The picture we had was the identical picture, so there is now doubt we connected! To further compliment the proof we knew the last child of Idens (Iddings) MOORE and Frances Elizabeth REEVES was named David Herbert Moore, b. 1863, and a nephew of Mrs. Parsons ancestry. Mrs. Parsons did a superb job with connecting to my line of Moores to Wrightsborugh, GA, Moores with James Moore, blacksmith of Philadelphia ca 1684 and his brother Anthony Moore, locksmith of Philadelphia ca 1684 who are discussed in the Lewis D. Cook article. I have spent since 1993 running down the sources and footnotes sited by the authors in both articles and have done the same for every article that I have found on this line of Moores and related families mentioned. The old genealogy census rule: When you find an ancestor in the census records look all around for several pages for similar surnames and make notes of neighbors because they are usually related. The same rule will often work with proven family lines in books. I don't think I am going to "discover" one of my ancestors. Someone has already found them, I just want to learn all I can about them. The connection of my line of MOORES to published works taught me several lessons in researching families. Check under every possible spelling of every name, given and surname. Idens has been spelled 22 different ways and called something different by his descendants. Some of the spellings lead the reader to believe they are different people surnamed MOORE. His real name was no doubt IDDINGS which is a Quaker family that was in Pennsylvania. I have also found some indications the IDDINGS came from Wales or Shropshire, England to Pennsylvania about the same time the MOORE arrived in Philadelphia. By the time Idens (Iddings) Moore reached maturity he did not know how to read and write, consequently there are no records on him that will bear the correct spelling, if there is such a thing as "correct spelling" in genealogical records of people who do not know how to read or write. This lesson can be applied to any family name. The second lesson is the repetition of family names: The pattern or custom of naming children is repeated for 10 generation with almost predictable consistency in my line of Moores. David Herbert Moore the uncle and David Herbert Moore the nephew. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - BETTY (MOORE) NEWMAN (JLN198 @AOL.com) *****For the Query regearing James Moore born Ireland and had at least 5 children: I have James Moore in my line: _____ Moore born Ireland died Ireland : Children - (1) George, born Ireland, died 18 June 1842, Roane C0. TN. (2) James b.1770`s, Ireland, died around 1847, Roane Co. Tn , lst marriage , Unknown. (3) Alexander b. Ireland married Isabel ? Children of James' 2nd Marriage: James, Catherine, Hannah, Henderson (married Martha A.Jones, 27 Sept 1853), Hugh b. Kingston,Roane Co. Tn. (married Elmira Wheat, 4 May 1852, Roane Co. TN). Children of James' 3rd marriage : Jane 1796 , George (married Polly Simmons 19 Apr 1809, Roane C0. Tn), Henry b. 1802, Roane C0. TN. died 1858 Stoddard C0. MO. (married Elizabeth Anthony), John (married Charity McDaniel, 21 Nov.1823, Roane C0. TN), Elizabeth b.1805, (married John Deaver 16 Nov.1823, Roane Co. TN), Marjery, born TN (married James Wells,11 Oct. 1817, Roane CO. TN ). COLONIAL MOORES BILL MOORE (Bill_Moore_at_LPPI@CCMAIL.UCSF.EDU) ***** Here are the entries for Moore in Peter Wilson Coldham's "Settlers of Maryland" - 3 vols., Baltimore 1995-96. MOORE, Alexander Moorfields 94 acres.........1687 Moorfields Addition 30...................1687 MOORE, [More], James of Calvert Co., carpenter: Beale Hunting Quarter 300..........1681 Child's Portion 227..........1694 Defence 150......... .1682 Four Hills 400..........1686 Horse Race 300..........1682 Leith 500..........1682 Moore's Add'n 231..........1695 Moore's Little Worth 40..........1694 Morefields 150..........1680 Potterne Wake 203..........1685 MOORE, John: Transported by John Abington of Calvert Co. before August 1680. MOORE, Mordecai of Anne Arundel Co.: Beale's Reserve 455..........1695 Moore's Morning Choice 1,368..........1695 MOORE, William: Transported by John Abington of Calvert Co. before August 1680. Not mentioned in above tract list is Barbadoes and Dunbar, believed to have been owned by James Moore of Prince Georges County. RESEARCH Here's a very interesting account about a very interesting period in American history. ELDON JENSEN (jensenet@vii.com) *****I found this story in my book 'Colonial Surry' by John Bennett Boddie on page 101 to 107 is this: Several communities in the United States have claimed that their particular place was the 'Birthplace of Freedom' because early in colonial times its citizens made protests against the payment of unjust and burdensome taxes. We wish to advance the claim of Lawne's Creek Parish Church in Surry County as the 'Birthplace of Freedom' In America for some of its parishioners met there on December 12, 1673 'to declare they would not pay their public taxes.' There was no freedom of assembly in those days and this unusual and unauthorized meeting alarmed the authorities. Two justices of the County Court, by virtue of an English statute nearly 300 years old which empowered Justices to inquire into such 'Riots', ordered the sheriff to arrest these 'seditious' people and bring them before the court for trial. This was only a prelude to Bacon's Rebellion in 1676. Governor Berkely was America's first modern dictator. It will be noted in the following chapter on the Rebellion, that his methods of obtaining absolute rule was somewhat like that of Huey Long's and governors of other states to whom subservient legislatures gave autocratic powers. America's freedom was not won by a single stroke. It was of slow growth, as typified by this and other like protests made from time to time, until it finally burst forth in a greater rebellion than Bacon's, the American Revolution. But let us get along with the story. On January 3, 1673-74, following the gathering at Lawne's Creek Church, LAWRENCE BAKER and ROBERT SPENCER, Justices of the County Court issued the following write which was recorded January 13, 1673: (Bk. 2, p. 40) 'Of how dangerous consequence unlawful assemblies and meeting have been is evident by the chronicles of our native country which are occasioned by a giddy headed multitude, and unless restrained may prove the ruin of a country, and therefore we, LAWRENCE BAKER and ROBERT SPENCER, two of ye justices of this county, being informed that on about the 12th of December last past, a company of seditious and rude people to the number of 14 did unlawfully assemble at the Parish Church of Lawne's Creek, with intent to declare they would not pay their public taxes, and they expected divers others to meet them, who failing they did not put their wicked design in execution, and for the good law made against rogues and Riots and particularly the Statute of 13 Henry IV, chapter 7, and in joining Justices to inquire of such meetings, we therefore sent our warrant to the Sheriff of this county to Cause, Matthew Swan John Barnes William Hancock William Tooke Robert Lacy John Gregory Thomas Clay Mathew Upchurch John Sheppard George Peters William Little John Greene James Chessett to appear before us, yet the said person not being satisfied with this former unlawful meeting, did this day, the greatest part of them meet together in ye old field called 'Devil's Old Field', and as we justly suspect did confederate not to discover who were the first instigators of moved them to their unlawful assembling as afore and we upon their examination to find they have unanimously agreed to justify their meetings, persisting in the same as appears by the open declaring of Roger Delke that if one suffers they would all burn, and we find their contemptuous behaviour and carriage not respecting authority; have therefore committed ye persons aforesaid to the custody of the Sheriff, until they find security for their appearance at the next County Court and also for keeping the peace which we conceive consonant to the law in such cases, and ye mutinous persons aforesaid being so many in number. We have by Virtue of the Statute of ye 2d of Henry 5th command ye aide and assistance of several of the neighborhood for their security. Given under our hands the day and year aforesaid." (Book 2, p. 40)................. ...........The case of MATTHEW SWAN was finally brought before the Council and General Court of Virginia on the afternoon of April 6, 1674 and settled as follows; 'It is ordered that the order of Surry Court Against the mutinuss Psons be Confirmed and that MATHEW SWAN the ringleader of them, who was bound over to the Court be Fined Two Thousand pounds of tobacco and Caske and that all fines of the psons goe towards the ffort at James Citty. And that they pay all Just Costs and Charges.' (Minutes of Council and General Court, p. 367) This, however, did not end the matter, for there is always a court of public opinion to which even dictators sometimes bow. This action caused so much resentment among the colonists that Governor BERKLEY found it advisable to remit the fines which he finally did on September 23, 1674. (W.M. 23, p. 122) It is significant that these events occurred a full two years before the outbreak of the Rebellion, and the cause indicates the discont of the people and their sullen attitude toward their rulers. Only Lawnes Creek Parish men were involved in the above. When the actual rebellion broke out, most of those involved with Bacon--in fact, a very large majority--were inhabitants of Southwark, the other parish in Surry. Perhaps the spirit of Lawnes Creek men had been broken by the condemnation of MATTHEW SWAN and his colleagues. MATTHEW SWAN, the ringleader of this protest against high taxes, has many descendants in Virginia and the South. In 1675 he married Mrs. Mary Spiltimber, widow of Anthony Spiltimber and daughter of ROBRET HARRIS. His will was dated December 14, 1702 and probated Jan 5, 1702/3. He mentioned Elizabeth, wife of (1)John Drew (d. 1703) [2. John Sugars], Sarah [married Carter Crafford], Elizabeth, daughter of John Drew; son-in-law, John Drew, daughter, Mary, wife of William Phillips; and grandson, John Phillips, Executors were John Drew and Sarah Swann. Witnesses were Arthur Allen, William Chambers, John Allen, and Robert Ruffin. [Note: A true colonial feature of the Lawne's Parish landscape is an old brick structure known as "Bacon's Castle." It was owned by Arthur Allen who witnessed Matthew Swan's will.] ==================================================================Back issues of MOORE NEWS available at: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/news ============================================================================= MOORE NEWS: Compiled from email and other sources Distributed by Joyce Browning cJBrown7169@AOL.com 26 March 1997