MOORE NEWS Volume II 9 April 1997 Issue 17 SALUTATIONS Here's an announcement from JO4CATS@aol.com. Note that the class actually began on 4 April 97, but is still open for interested participants. *****I found a site on the web where you can sign up for on line genealogy classes for free. They also list other classes that may be helpful to some. The address is http://www.vu.org/register.html It is sponsored by Compuserve but you do not have to belong to compuserve to take advantage of the classes. NEW MEMBERS This is a correction from a previous issue. An incorrect email address was listed, so I'm redistributing the information on the family of Cicero Moore. My apologies for the inconvenience. SolveigMB@aol.com *****Through a generous person on the internet I have finally found what happened to my Cicero A Moore and his family after the 1860 census in Rowan Co NC. He did not appear on the state wide 1870 census, but this person found a will from 1778/1779 in Iredell co NC, and IT IS HIM!! If anyone out there has a 1870 Iredell census in book form (indexed) I sure would appreciate a look up. He was alive! Cicero was born 1808 NC , married Sarah Leazer 8 April 1833 in Rowan Co Children: Margaret C b 1834 William A b 1836, m Jane Miller, moved to AR, died there 1911 Mary E b 1838 John H b 1840 Jane C b 1842 Samuel M b 1845, conf. soldier, died 1900 Iredell Co? James K b 1847 Sarah E Caroline b 1849 Calhoun L b 1851, died 1947 Iredell Co NC?? 96 years old?? Julia A b 1854 Catherine?? William A MOORE and his brother both served in Co B, 4th regt NC State Troops.(Conf.) QUERIES KENNY SMITH (DMUB77A@prodigy.com) *****I just received some information on my Moore's from a man on Prodigy. Perhaps someone could help me prove some of this!!!! Thomas Moore, born in Ireland...son of Francis Moore....died in Rockingham Co., NC in 1797. Thomas' wife is unknown, but children are listed as follows: Stephen Frances(married Zachariah Smith of Rockingham, NC) Benjamin (married Mildred Witt) Abner James John William(died May 7, 1818) wife was Elizabeth------ His children: James b. may 26, 1777 married Mary Peters(I know this is incorrect as James, son of WIlliam, married Elizabeth Mays and died 1848 in Henry Co., VA) Ann Sally(m. David Mills) William Biddy Eleck Betsy(m. WIlson) This info was compiled in 1983....as to its veracity....who can tell???? This is the first find of an Abner Moore.....my records indicate that an Abner Moore married Mary Ann Mays, sister of Elizabeth Mays, in Rockingham/Henry Co.......does anyone have any clues??? My thanks to Bentley Hooks for providing me with info on William Moore (Rev War patriot) being the father of my James Moore. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MMARTINIS@aol.com *****I have census records from Campbell Co, GA stating that James Moore, age 40, is living in House #78 along with wife, Sarah, and their seven children. James Moore and wife were born in South Carolina. The next house on the census, #79, is the house of Jordon J. Moore, age 62, his wife Rhoda A. Moore, and their four children. Jordon was born in Virginia and his wife in North Carolina. Now, I see a possible connection between these two gentlemen. Does anyone have anything on them. My researches ends at James. We do not know if Jordon could be a brother or even his father. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - LEE ELLIOTT (lelliott@coe.eng.ua.edu) *****My Moore connection is Martha Moore, born ca. 1812, eastern NC. She may have been the sister of Toms R. Moore, with another sister Margaret. She married Hugh Elliott (another mystery!) in Perquimans County, NC, 1837. They lived in Ballahack, now called Belvidere. Their son, Kenneth Raynor Elliott, married an Elizabeth Elliott, whose lineage I CAN trace. RESPONSES BONITA SHAFER (sidlee@ix.netcom.com) is replying to MIKE GOTWALT (H0CKEYNUT) from the Moore News new members Vol. ll, April 6 1997 *****Mike, I do believe your Daniel and mine are one in the same I grow up in the area listening to my grandmother tell beautiful stories about the canals and our Indian background. I wish I had had the insight to write more of it all down. Daniel helped build the CO canal. The Old Moore family home is located close the canals on MT Lock Hill out side of Sharpsburg.... You will find most of the Moore's are buried at Samples Manor Cemetery in the old Sandy Hook District 11 or Mt View Cemetery in Sharpsburg, MD. COLONIAL MOORES PEGGY SUE WILSON (PWilson411) *****I copied one page from this book - Abstracts of Moore Records of SC 1694-1795 by Janie Revill, and thought I'd share it with the group. [Ed. Note: Until 1782, South Carolina was divided into four counties. The names were Craven, Granville -- and I think Beaufort and Charleston -- not sure about the last two. All wills were probated centrally at the Probate Office in Charleston, so these Moores might be from any of the four counties.] CHARLESTON RECORDS Thomas Moore - Estate. Letters of Admr. first granted to Joesph Barry, who relinquished claim to administration on Nov 1, 1722, at which time Charles Moore was appointed to succeed him. Henry Moore - Will dated July 28, 1732. Son, Henry; daughter, Hannah; sister, Margaret. Exor. James Jurdoon; Wit. Leonard Dobbin and Henry Sheriff. Jehu Moore - Will dated 1744. Mother, Elizabeth Moore; brothers, James and John; sisters, Margaret Sanders, Mary Postell and Elizabeth Moore; cousin, James Sanders. (This was son of the second Gov. Moore.) John Moore - Will dated Jan. 27, 1735. Wife, Rachel; sons, John and William; daughters, Anne Ellory, wife of Thomas Ellory, and Elizabeth Moore. John and Elizabeth were minors. Exors. wife and Zachariah Villepontoux (?);wit, James Rawlins, Thomas Beckett and Chas. Faucherand, and John Croft. Prov. March 15, 1735. John Moore "of Williamsburg" - Will. Son, John, not yet sixteen years, Joseph and Samuel, the youngest; daughter, Margaret. Inventory of personal property dated 1750; appraisers were William Nelson, John Gamble and James Gamble. John Moore - Estate. Wm. Coachman aptd. Admr. Appraisal dated Nov. 12, 1761, by Paul Porcher; Joseph Stead and John DuPont. Devises property in Granville County, St. Peters' Parish. Jacob Moore and wife Christiana, "Of the Congarees" sold lands on the Congarees between Saxegotha and Amelia Thonships to Grace Russell, March 8, 1765. Francis Moore "of Little River, of Saludy" - Will dated Nov 1, 1770. Wife, Frances; son, William; mentions "my three children" Exors. Wife and John Ford "of Tyger River." Proven by dedimus before James Lindsey June 3, 1771. (Spartanburg people and locations.) James Moore, Sr. "of St. Peters parish, Granville Co." Will dated Jan 18, 1771. Sons, James, John; daughter, Elizabeth. Exors. two sons; wit Wm Godfrey, Chas Scrimfger, and John Wilkins. Proven Sept 17, 1772. RESEARCH PETER ALLEN RAMSEY (Bervi@aol.com) *****An item to share: I have found (probably) the parents of my John Peter Moore of Franklin County VA, b 4 Oct 1859 d 14 Aug 1912. My Ferrum, VA cousin shows marriage and census records which show: Alexander J. Moore b. ca 1836 (son of Wm. and Nancy Moore) m. Elizabeth Goode 31 Dec 1858 (dtr/o Wm. Goode (1) and Nancy ? Also in the info was a Xerox copy of Alexander's estate sale from the Will Book dated 29 Aug 1862. This explains his meager progeny. Wingfield's "Pioneer Families of Franklin County" (not always reliable) shows "Issue of Alexander and Elizabeth (Goode) Moore: 1) Mordecai, 2) Peter, who m. Bettie McGhee, daughter of John McGhee of Franklin Co." My cousin says that Mordecai as yet doesn't appear in records she has looked at, but all else is good. Here is the Moore Line for me so far: GEN 1 William MOORE m. Nancy ? GEN 2 son, Alexander J. MOORE, b ca 1836, md 31 Dec 1858 Franklin Co VA Elizabeth GOODE b. ca 1832. Alexander J. MOORE died 1862 Franklin Co. VA about 26 yrs of age. Administrator of his estate sale was listed as William M. MOORE (perhaps his father, or an older brother?) GEN 3 son, John Peter MOORE b 4 Oct 1859 d 14 Aug 1912 m. 1 Apr 1884 Betty Mary McGhee b 26 Jul 1869 d 8 Mar 1966. (10 Children) son, Mordecai MOORE ? GEN 4 dtr Eva MOORE b 1892 d 1955 md 1913 Andrew Judson RAMSEY b 1891 d 1935 (my grandparents) I wonder now if anyone can connect to this William Moore ancestor and his lovely wife Nancy What's-her-name??? {;->) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TERRI BRADSHAW O'NEILL (kon646@airmail.net) ***** really neat bit of information I just got in response to a letter to the New York Historical Society. This will probably fall under the category of "Research". I can't recall having seen in the back issues of Moore News anyone mentioning being connected to the family of Dr. Clement Clarke Moore of New York City, the author of "A Visit from St. Nicholas", aka "The Night Before Christmas". As you know, I descend from the family of Col. John Moore (1686-1749) of NYC through his son, Stephen Moore. Well, Stephen was the 17th of 18 children and he had an older brother named Thomas. Thomas had a large family, too. Thomas's oldest son, John, was the author of the memoirs that all of our Moore's family history is based on. Two other sons of Thomas entered the clergy, most notably Richard Channing Moore who became the Bishop of Virginia in 1814. The other one was the Rev. Thomas Lambert Moore, who was the Rector of St. George's, S. Hempstead, Long Island. He married Judith Moore, the sister of Dr. Benjamin Moore, Bishop of New York and thus, the aunt of Clement Clarke Moore, son of Benjamin. The two Moore lines united by this marriage between Thomas Lambert & Judith were in no other way related. Now, back to Thomas's oldest son, John, the author of the memoirs: he had a son, Thomas William Channing Moore who was a member of the New York Historical Society, and in fact, donated his father's memoirs to that Society, along with some other papers of his father's and the key to a painting called "Interior of the Park Theatre, 1822". The painting depicted a great many of New York's Knickerbocker society, and the key identified them. In 1862, when Thomas William Channing Moore presented much of this material to the NYHS, he wrote a letter to the librarian of the Society, George H. Moore (no relation as far as I can tell), which stated, in part: "I have the pleasure to inform you that Dr. Clement C. Moore has been so kind as to comply with my request (made at your suggestion) to furnish, for the Archives of our Society, an autograph copy of his justly celebrated 'Visit from St. Nicholas'-I now enclose to you. "...In an interview that I had yesterday with Dr. Moore, he told me that a portly, rubicund Dutchman, living in the neighborhood of his father's country seat, Chelsea, suggested to him the idea of making St. Nicholas the hero of this 'Christmas piece' for his children." Signed, T.W.C.Moore At the time this letter was written (1862), Clement Clarke Moore was in his 80's and had written the poem 40 years before for his two daughters. A relative had sent the poem to the newspaper in Troy, NY, which I believe, published it in 1824. To think that one of our Moores was even peripherally connected to this wonderful story is thrilling. Wouldn't it be fun to learn the identity of the "portly, rubicund Dutchman" who served as the model for St. Nick? Maybe it's already been done. MOORE MISCELLANY Source: "New Old Kent." Dr. Malcolm Harris. 1978 THE OLD TAVERN There are few references to an early tavern in the upper part of New Kent which was kept by one Thomas Moore, who sold and conveyed by deed on April 14, 1726, to William Clopton, Jun., the land whereon Thomas lately lived and kept an Ordinary. It was in part the land which Elinor, wife of Thomas Moore had inherited by the will of James Austin. Ordinaries were private interests, and were spaced along the main thoroughfares at varying distances, that allowed the traveler to go from breakfast to his midday meal, about four hours later, and in the afternoon about the same time until he dines again. A man traveling on horseback covered about twenty miles between meals, or about forty miles per day, depending on the road, the horse, the rider, the urgency of travel. George Washingotn was a great traveler, and made good time when it was necessary to do; but his movements were also governed by many things beyond which he had no control. The tavern in the upper part of New Kent which was kept, at one time, by a man named Howle. One night the Rev. Mr. Scarvant Jones, a well known Baptist minister, was making his way from the City of Richmond to his home in Williamsburg and he stopped for food and lodging at Mr. Howle's. It was late and only the leftovers from dinner were to be had. The Parson looked over the remains of the dinner, and offered thanks: Lord Bless the Howle that killed this fowl And left the bones for Scarvant Jones. Another form used by Mr. Jones is: God Bless the Howle that at the Fowl And left the bones for poor old Scarvant Jones. The tavern was occupied in 1820 by the Howles and the Census returns for 1850 indicates that the tavern was then being run by the Ratcliffes. It has been the home of Mr. and Mrs. Linwood Fisher for many years and they have modernized the dwelling and it is a very attractive home. __________________________________________________________________ Back issues of MOORE NEWS available at: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/news __________________________________________________________________ MOORE NEWS: Compiled from email and other sources Distributed by Joyce Browning cJBrown7169@AOL.com 9 April 1997